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we have a great week of guests coming up

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uh we have nick pope stephen bassett

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uh we have david marlar and

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scott brown and more um so please like

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subscribe share to my youtube channel

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and twitter

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um because it would be my honor if you

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joined me

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um today we have a surprise saturday

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show at 10 a.m

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with uh kristoff um

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and he's going to fill us in on uap

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media uk

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and we're just gonna hang out and have a

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good time and catch up because it's been

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a while

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uh but again next week big week

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um nick pope steve bassett david marlar

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um scott brown mark

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fiorentina he is into metaphysics he

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wrote a book

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um and you should look into him because

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what he has to share is pretty cool

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so please join me

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with our friends

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i am witness citizen

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witness citizen

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what's up everybody it's saturday i got

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my sunglasses on

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how is everyone on this beautiful

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too quiet what's

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wrong with the volume what is wrong

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with the volume because

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it seems to me that it should be working

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pretty well but it's not is that what

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that's not good

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um probably

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i recorded music and then everything

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there we go

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check what the frick

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okay check i don't know

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my microphone ain't working

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check check check check check check

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check i don't know what's happening

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check what the heck

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i don't know if this is working

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but i can't hear a darn thing guys

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something is going on with my computer

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i believe so

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i'm not really sure what to do at this

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i don't know what the deal is

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i'm hearing stuff could you talk for a

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sec chris

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hello can you hear me i can hear you can

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you hear me

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yes i can hear you perfectly oh you can

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that's awesome

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all right i don't know what is going on

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over on my end

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i'm sorry about that that's fine

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yeah but we have nine people watching

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it's pretty good i'm not sure if i'm

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worth the their time but thank you

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yeah sorry about that it's like for some

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reason the the output isn't working for

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me

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so um like to hear myself

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which is fine because i don't need to

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hear myself but

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um it just threw me for a loop

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so tell me about yourself how have you

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been it's been such a long time man

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yeah it has it's been a really long time

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10 12 hour days sometimes and trying to

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kind of balance work looking after my

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because my wife's a nurse and she does

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night shifts and stuff and uh yeah

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so it's challenging and then whatever

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spare time i have really i

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try to stay with my family and help the

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ongoing efforts

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for um for transparency around the uap

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topic so uh it's pretty difficult but um

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kind of like sit back and enjoy the

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fruits of our labor

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yeah well you deserve it

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are you disappointed at all in the

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the latest thing what what were they

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exactly doing

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you mean the house of lords yeah yeah

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the house the house of lords

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so the house of lords so obvious you

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correct you have to send it

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and then you have the um the congress

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so you can be a representative from

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congress or you could be a senator

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serving within the senate so you have

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um and i think the senate is more

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important from my understanding

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than the congress in terms of the power

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that each senator has am i correct

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um more or less

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um in terms of parliamentary democracy

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style um our head of status obviously

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prime minister serves at the privilege

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mps are they're the ones who are up for

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um none of the members are up for

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election they don't get elected

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conservative party as a reward

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they may say actually you know i'm gonna

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i'm gonna reward you by

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nominating you for a kind of like a life

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period within the house of lords so

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i'll be your lord forever um so you can

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or it's passed down from family to

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family so like some lords like

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maybe william the conqueror's time um

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so yeah that's how it works in terms of

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that so you had the house of lords

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and debating yeah um so

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none of the people who debated it none

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of their necks are on the line in terms

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of oh if i say this

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people are going to think i'm crazy and

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i may not be elected next time

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yeah um so you don't really get any of

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i guess it's a it's the perfect place to

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so i don't know what's happened but you

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that someone high up from the

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conservative party has said to

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amma armor suffraz

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who was the um the lord who brought it

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someone quiet from the conservative

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party maybe like let's test the waters

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let's see how this debate looks

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um in kind of a setting in terms of

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um what are the optics do we look like

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we're crazy can we debate this

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and people aren't going to be think

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we're all crazy and

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lost our minds so i think it's kind of

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kind of like let's test the waters yeah

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government can't ignore it forever

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sorry oh no no sorry the balloon in the

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background was

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my son's birthday um nevermind but it

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was digger bag

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that was my birthday on um on

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thursday yeah so um thank you

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thank you i've got lots of lovely

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messages so uh

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thank you to everyone who wish me a

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happy birthday

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um it was very much appreciated well you

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deserve it man

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um you're a good good person so i wanted

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to make sure that yeah

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you came back and we got to keep talking

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um yeah i think it's probably

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a positive that they're at least talking

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about it right

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it's gonna happen no matter what happens

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the us government

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um is bent on helm terms and getting

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um and as lou said the other

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day ago it's gonna shift into third gear

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you can't you can't be an ostrich and

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put your head in the sand

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when it comes to this it's going to come

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at you whether you like it or not

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um and i'm hoping that the uk government

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is kind of like learned and

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learned its lesson from covid we had so

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many people like back when that was

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breaking up be like oh

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it's china it's nowhere near here it's

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going to be fine and

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have you been to italy before they kiss

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each other and stuff like that all the

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you know very very friendly with each

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other and do they hug each other all the

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virus like cobia it's not going to

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happen here but

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lesson now that you know we're a

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terms we're a very interconnected world

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what happens in america more so than any

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country is going to impact what happens

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um like the optics don't look good and i

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can probably tell you that there's

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within the uk government right now

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actually probably within most world

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governments they're head screwed on

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properly

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coming up with a plan and how they

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actually strategically approach this

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if they're not then that's reckless and

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i'm hoping that the ministry of defense

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is being forthcoming with mps um and i'm

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willing to put my neck out on the line

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as well just guessing

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um that mps i mean they're people like

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as well they're seeing what's happening

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i think they are i think they are i

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don't know they're people

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i'm willing to bet that there are a few

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kind of just um starting to ask

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questions perhaps

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um of the ministry of defense because

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remember it's not just like

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a politician gets into government and

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they're giving a box of secrets

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it's actually the bureaucracy in like

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are civil servants um

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the unelected people let's say who very

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much got the information the answers

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when it comes to this stuff

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so it's up to i mean the senators and

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congressmen in your case and the mps and

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laws in our case

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because like prize that information from

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them um

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it just so happens in america that

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you've already got yourself a bunch of

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cases

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eyewitness testimony you've kind of got

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you know elected politicians people

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behind the scenes like john podesta

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um working in tandem with people from

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the pentagon

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making sure that there's a coordinated

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effort of getting this out

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and i'm not sure whether in the uk and

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other countries we

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we have that yeah i don't know and

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maybe if you do they'd just be more

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secretive about it or you know

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um who knows it's

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yeah it's definitely interesting because

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you made a good point

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it like people only tend to deal with

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things when they're confronted with it

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face to face you know and sounds like

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that's what

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you guys do over there or the mps or

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whatever you know the way you're

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describing it so

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maybe if a big triangle shows up over

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the queen's castle

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but how is the how is the debate in the

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u.s now i mean like still when i bring

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it up

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over here people people kind of like

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think i've lost my mind

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paul chris did you hear what he was

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talking about obviously he's not all

324
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a joke but um what what what's it like

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is it

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is the atmosphere changed in the states

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now because you've got so many

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much coverage there now is it becoming

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kind of like an everyday

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occurrence that people can talk about

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this um

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i it's it's tough to say because i don't

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really go out in the real world too much

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when i do i've asked random people if uh

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when corbell's videos were coming out if

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they've seen those and what they thought

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and surprisingly most people

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didn't know what i was talking about um

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with the

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report news and everything i think that

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and it's kind of like all the promo that

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led up to it really um and then the

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report came

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in uh i feel like a lot more people uh

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were talking about it

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um for sure and the news is ramping up

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but

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it just is more about um

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who is it really reaching you know um

350
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like i said the videos never seem to get

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too far out but i have a small sample

352
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size you know

353
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i didn't have a line of people like that

354
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i was asking

355
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you know it's just random here and there

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but uh my

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uh my wife and my father were aware of

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the report and it came out

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and you know what they took from it was

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one in 144 who were positively

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identified

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and we have the tmz stuff it seems like

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every time there's something like

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bigger or maybe even hyped

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and then released or something people

366
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just kind of argue about it no matter

367
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what it is

368
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you know so i don't know how healthy

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that actually is for

370
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for all of this if that's the case but

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um

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i think it does it has to ramp up

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pressure at least inside the government

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that stuff's being released

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um regardless so i take that as a

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positive but

377
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i think it's a slow burn but um

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you know my cousin and and uncle just

379
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found out that i was doing this um

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they take it well they've heard about

381
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the stuff so it's not

382
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it's going okay yeah i think it's a lot

383
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more

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normal than it used used to be or

385
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you know but it's interesting because

386
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people say i never took you for

387
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uh like someone that you know aliens and

388
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stuff

389
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:38,480
i go whoa no one's talking about aliens

390
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:42,000
you know we're talking about ufos uh

391
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and getting more information on them

392
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could be aliens

393
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it could not be you know it could be

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interdimensional or

395
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or whatever spiritual you know but

396
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um but i mean so i think that attachment

397
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to

398
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aliens this whole time has almost kind

399
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:01,600
of created that stigma

400
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:03,760
yeah i think aliens is kind of like a

401
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:05,600
stigma word now as well like at first it

402
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,559
was ufos

403
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:08,240
have you noticed that ufos is kind of

404
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:09,679
getting less of a stigma when you hear

405
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:10,840
it now it's no longer

406
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like it's kind of like it's more

407
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:13,760
acceptable but

408
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,080
now it's aliens people are like oh great

409
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:18,960
the aliens again

410
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,320
but it does like yes

411
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that's what makes them think like whoa

412
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:26,960
well that guy's weird

413
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:30,240
you know but it's really like i guess it

414
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:31,679
could be aliens that'd be cool

415
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,720
but i have no idea you know it's an

416
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unidentified flying thing in our

417
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,000
airspace and all that

418
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:40,720
and i've looked at reports where they

419
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:42,880
described the same maneuvers

420
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:46,240
and shapes and speeds and turns uh as

421
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the 50s

422
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you know pilots military pilots

423
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so there's something there it's just

424
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:57,919
like my goal is to get more information

425
00:23:01,430 --> 00:23:00,960
so that more people can digest it you

426
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:01,440
know

427
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:04,799
yeah i mean for me i i became

428
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:08,000
kind of attached with timothy good

429
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,600
um who i don't i think he must be very

430
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:14,080
very old now but he was a top researcher

431
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,919
um and also a friend of nick pope as

432
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,600
well and he

433
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,360
played in the london symphony orchestra

434
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,720
and so he got to go all around the world

435
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:22,640
but he was a great researcher

436
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:25,039
i became attached to him and tom delonge

437
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:26,320
is kind of like

438
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,840
theory although i'm not sure it was a

439
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:29,919
fear in the part of tom delonge that

440
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:30,640
actually it's

441
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:33,600
uh it's all the above it's um it's

442
00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:34,840
extraterrestrial

443
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:38,159
interdimensional um and also it's ultra

444
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:39,600
terrestrial as well

445
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:42,720
and it's not just one thing um and it's

446
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:44,240
actually too simplistic

447
00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:46,799
to think it's one thing so that's that's

448
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:53,830
yeah and but but now it seems that lou

449
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:57,039
and and other people are kind of um

450
00:24:01,750 --> 00:23:59,360
i mean they're gently doing it but they

451
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:01,760
they seem to be suggesting

452
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,880
that it's interdimensional now more than

453
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:06,400
anything

454
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,840
i feel like that's been kind of pushed

455
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:09,760
for a while now yeah but

456
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:13,600
at least through time to long um

457
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:17,120
yeah but yeah and like what is what is

458
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:20,720
that even mean you know it's so bizarre

459
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:21,520
to think about

460
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,760
but i can tell you like my first

461
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,000
experience ever that i had

462
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,320
um where i saw like two of the same

463
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:29,760
things but different shapes but

464
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:31,360
obviously

465
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:35,200
um you know made the same thing

466
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,480
uh just because you could tell with the

467
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:38,240
texture and all that stuff

468
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:41,679
um but those seem like they literally

469
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:42,240
like

470
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:45,360
entered and exited a dimension you know

471
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:48,720
it didn't seem like they whizzed by

472
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:52,080
and like you know it was literally

473
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,360
seemed like it was in the atmosphere

474
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:58,000
crossed over my eyes on purpose and then

475
00:25:02,390 --> 00:24:58,559
just

476
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:02,400
out you know gone and then the

477
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:05,679
ball the couple days later whatever was

478
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,640
the same way

479
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:08,320
except i got like zapped with like a

480
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:10,799
shot of light on my shoulder

481
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:13,600
and then it came over and then it was

482
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:14,080
gone

483
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:18,000
in and out you know it's crazy

484
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,240
have you found yourself having more of

485
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,080
these experiences as you're getting

486
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:24,240
deeper into the topic

487
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:27,600
no actually i've been having less

488
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,710
it just sticks with me what lou said is

489
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:36,080
that like um

490
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:39,279
the more they investigated it the more

491
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:41,200
things in terms of serendipity started

492
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:42,320
happening yeah

493
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:45,360
i heard that too that was interesting

494
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,080
but see i wonder if they were like

495
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:50,080
believers in anything at that point or

496
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:51,679
not

497
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,960
sometimes i feel like it happened

498
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,520
so i could be and to put me in a certain

499
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:59,279
position like here possibly

500
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,720
that's a little grandiose for me to

501
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,799
think of but you know i'm trying to make

502
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:04,080
sense of it

503
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:08,159
um well listen to our last debate that

504
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:09,279
we had about

505
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:12,240
you know we went from um from neil young

506
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:13,200
to

507
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,080
just turned out that you kind of had a

508
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:20,159
link to that in your family history

509
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:21,679
i mean that was pretty that was pretty

510
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:23,440
spooky yeah

511
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,080
um yeah and it i don't know for sure i

512
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:27,840
did look into it but the records aren't

513
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:28,720
that great

514
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:31,840
um in portugal in general at that time

515
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:34,880
like um my great grandfather

516
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:38,159
um i could find i found like his baptism

517
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,279
papers and

518
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,600
where he was born and my uh grandma and

519
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,360
all that stuff

520
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:46,159
but there's not i can't find much on

521
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:46,720
them

522
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,840
elsewhere like you know here i can when

523
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:51,440
they came here

524
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:54,960
um so i don't know and where they like

525
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:58,000
where seemingly they lived which i think

526
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,840
was like foscoa but he worked in lisbon

527
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:03,440
so i don't know and then they left to

528
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,400
come here two years later after that

529
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:08,080
but the thing that makes me think like

530
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,840
they had to at least hear about it

531
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,360
because there was a picture with like

532
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,200
seventy thousand people there

533
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:16,080
it's like so he's gonna know uh yeah

534
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,200
they apparently were

535
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:19,279
a little family and then he came here as

536
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:25,190
but then put on papers he was an

537
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,240
interpreter

538
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:28,559
and then another time a taxi driver and

539
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:29,279
then he was

540
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,840
like had a very small role in a cia

541
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:34,480
movie um

542
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:37,279
regarding like the cold war cold no not

543
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:38,720
cold war

544
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,520
i don't know like a nazi a cia movie

545
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:43,520
that was based off of true events

546
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:46,240
where the cia was like spying on their

547
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:48,080
operations here

548
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,480
um and he played a jeweler in a watch

549
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,480
store

550
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,799
that's pretty cool yeah i don't have

551
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:56,480
that much of an interesting family

552
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:58,240
background i'd love to have that

553
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:01,360
yeah well you know

554
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:04,799
that that's all we got i'm just kidding

555
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:07,279
everybody has good little stories and

556
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:08,240
family history

557
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:11,120
you just may not know about it you know

558
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:12,880
have you ever visited portugal before or

559
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:14,399
do you have plans to go there

560
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:18,880
yes i wanted yeah portugal's lovely like

561
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:22,559
my dad goes to portugal sometimes and um

562
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,919
i think a few years ago when it was

563
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:25,840
christmas here in the uk

564
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:29,520
it was like minus one raining

565
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,880
snowing storms but then in portugal

566
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,559
where my dad was it was kind of like 20

567
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,480
degrees

568
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,399
lovely kind of like warm weather blue

569
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,799
skies oh my gosh

570
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,960
i wish i was in portugal i would love to

571
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:44,720
go i want to research

572
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,679
some cases there to see if i can grab a

573
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:48,880
hold of anything

574
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,240
i think there may have been in like the

575
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:52,480
azores some stuff going on

576
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,080
so yeah no i

577
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,640
i believe there must be quite a few in

578
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,240
the mid i mean there are certainly a few

579
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:02,159
cases that we've heard

580
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:06,480
from italy yeah um and i mean it seems

581
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:08,320
i mean it is very very interesting i

582
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:09,760
mean you've got pinocchi he's one of the

583
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,840
top

584
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:13,279
researchers who also

585
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:16,000
coincidentally is in touch is very close

586
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:17,600
with both the military

587
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:20,880
in italy and the catholic church as well

588
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,640
and he was involved in isis efforts when

589
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:26,159
china was kind of going for the

590
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,640
disclosure about you en route

591
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:30,480
and then you've now got this kind of

592
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:32,399
thing that seemed i mean it wasn't

593
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,840
definitively confirmed but it was

594
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,679
suggested by lou that there may be some

595
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:37,600
truth that

596
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:40,799
a craft was recovered

597
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:44,480
under mussolini when he was a dictator

598
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:47,919
and then that craft was taken to united

599
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,710
we got to find that stuff like that no

600
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:55,919
that's pretty interesting

601
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:58,559
you know but but then again like when

602
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,440
you think about that

603
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,279
okay so if the us does have recovery

604
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,919
craft how many actually belong to the

605
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:05,440
u.s government

606
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,880
how many are in the hands of the u.s

607
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:08,320
government and how many are in the hands

608
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:08,799
of

609
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:15,200
them um recovering crashed

610
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,559
soviet planes or whatever like i bet

611
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:20,080
if that happened they would probably

612
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:22,080
just list it as a soviet plane

613
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:25,760
and do the same kind of stuff so

614
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:28,640
we can get more like details maybe i

615
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,520
could find the crashed soviet plane

616
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:33,360
yeah and i definitely didn't see you

617
00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:34,960
know

618
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:39,919
yeah i mean he lou is definitely

619
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:42,799
you know he's all in he's all in on what

620
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:43,279
it is

621
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,159
even though he's not you know he'll say

622
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:47,840
he's got an nda but

623
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:50,000
he tells you anyways like in a different

624
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:52,240
way what's going on you know

625
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:54,640
um so

626
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,440
[Laughter]

627
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:59,440
it'll come to a point i think where

628
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:01,120
people will get

629
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:04,399
tired of it if they don't get anything

630
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:07,600
you know at some point

631
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:11,600
um and he's doing such hard work so

632
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:13,360
and i don't know how long he can keep it

633
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:15,200
up so i just hope

634
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:18,399
that it all happens you know because it

635
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:20,159
like everything you need a little bit of

636
00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:21,519
hard work

637
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,470
is lou going to do your show man dude

638
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:32,880
everybody asked me that and um

639
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:35,039
not at this point yeah i want to see

640
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:36,399
that i'm gonna no i'm gonna put i'm

641
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:37,200
gonna put

642
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:44,789
i'm gonna i'm gonna message him

643
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,679
have you need a bigger platform or

644
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,360
something so when i get

645
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,679
the bigger platform maybe then i don't

646
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:53,200
know but he's

647
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:01,029
yeah hey thank you you want to say hello

648
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:04,720
come on santa jump on daddy's lap

649
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:07,919
softball questions kid

650
00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:10,080
he gets shy he gets shy like he's in the

651
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,600
background he makes noise and stuff but

652
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,200
if you bring it up to the camera

653
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,360
all of a sudden he gets very shy i

654
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:16,799
thought he was going to bring a detailed

655
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:18,159
analysis of uh

656
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:25,830
his findings absolutely yeah let me just

657
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,640
shut the door

658
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,720
yeah no but no don't leave should

659
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:32,080
definitely do your show

660
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:33,679
lou if you're out there and you're

661
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,120
watching do

662
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:37,760
sean the show i mean buddy how the guy

663
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:43,190
oh yeah well what are you gonna do

664
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:44,640
you're listening to me right now okay

665
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:45,440
it's for three

666
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:49,360
three months no you're fantastic and i'm

667
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:50,799
sure that lou will get around to doing

668
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:51,519
it i mean

669
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:53,919
he always takes time out just to support

670
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:54,720
everyone within

671
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:58,399
everyone has their talents

672
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,000
um and things that they can bring to the

673
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:02,399
table and lou appreciates everyone for

674
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:03,679
their effort and what they're bringing

675
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:04,399
to it but

676
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:05,760
i'm with you i don't think you can keep

677
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:08,000
it up much longer i think it's gonna

678
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:09,120
take its toll on him

679
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:12,320
it has taken its toll on him and um

680
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:13,519
i think soon we're going to be in a

681
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:16,080
situation i mean this is just from my

682
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:16,880
deduction

683
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:19,840
that it's going to explode quite soon i

684
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,120
mean you've already got i mean

685
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:23,760
senators and congressmen they've seen

686
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:25,600
these classified briefings

687
00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:28,240
i mean if you believe bob mcguire people

688
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:29,919
within the national security council

689
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,880
have seen 40 minutes of sci-fi movies

690
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,279
i mean could you imagine like can you

691
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:36,960
imagine it's like you're a congressman

692
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:38,240
you know and you're

693
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,279
getting up um to your usual day you've

694
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:44,000
got like a bunch of briefings and stuff

695
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:45,919
probably got a vote on a few things oh

696
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:47,279
and then someone takes you aside yeah i

697
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:48,399
just got to give you this briefing on

698
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:49,840
your face right okay

699
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:53,200
roll your eyes ufos and then

700
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:54,799
you're given like a briefing of a

701
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:56,559
lifetime and all of a sudden like

702
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,200
what the hell and like usually just like

703
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,960
questioning everything

704
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,640
can you imagine like what impact that

705
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,000
would have on someone's life

706
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:07,039
you would think that if that

707
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:10,480
happened someone one of them would just

708
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,280
be like

709
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:14,480
blowing the whistle hard you know like

710
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:17,200
we gotta tell everybody hey everyone you

711
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:18,399
know like

712
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:21,679
i don't care yeah yeah so dramatic

713
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:24,399
you know did you see um discovery the

714
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,240
other day with andre carlson

715
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:28,399
no and i can't find where to watch it

716
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,470
but it looks like from what people are

717
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:36,240
saying it looks like he's on a rural war

718
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:36,720
path

719
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,359
to um to kind of get this information

720
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:41,119
out now and i i think

721
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:44,480
i think you know the uaptf report um

722
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:46,560
it did it did what it needed to

723
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,560
obviously the classified version is

724
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,240
probably a lot more explosive but

725
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:53,040
i think it will get us to hearings and i

726
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:54,320
think it will get us to

727
00:35:00,829 --> 00:34:57,119
um to a permanent body as well a

728
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:00,839
permanent office that investigates

729
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:03,920
yeah i think it was

730
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,920
um so that memorandum came out right

731
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:07,920
away um after the report

732
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:12,000
yeah yeah i thought the dod or something

733
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,880
scooped them up

734
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:15,359
for to keep working and they're supposed

735
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:16,640
to put out another

736
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:19,200
like um briefing to congress in 90 days

737
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:19,920
i thought

738
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:23,119
yeah yeah so

739
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:24,560
you know you don't do that kind of stuff

740
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,200
if it's not serious

741
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,440
absolutely but i think as well like i

742
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,440
think there's a component of it that no

743
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:34,160
not many people have spoken about and um

744
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:36,160
it's that okay like the origin

745
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,280
is one thing like where does it

746
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:39,119
originate from who does it belong to but

747
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:40,240
actually

748
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:43,599
these things have

749
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,240
capabilities beyond anything we can do

750
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,240
generations beyond what we can do

751
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,680
we need to come up with a plan really

752
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:51,839
really quickly and i think like one of

753
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:52,160
the

754
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:54,400
um recommendations whatever that was put

755
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:55,839
out was actually saying that there needs

756
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,040
to be bands

757
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:59,119
to secure these areas where these craft

758
00:36:01,829 --> 00:36:00,320
is appearing

759
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:01,839
and that's i don't know how they're

760
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,960
going to do that that is crazy isn't it

761
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,720
yeah i mean that's when it gets real

762
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,480
serious is when it starts interrupting

763
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:10,400
stuff like that

764
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:13,200
yeah yeah absolutely and now it's near

765
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:13,920
no it's real

766
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,960
yeah it's very good no no no i i

767
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:18,240
agree with you wholeheartedly and i

768
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:19,359
think it's now in the open i think

769
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,480
there's gonna be a lot of senators and

770
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:22,480
congressmen being like

771
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,880
holy crap you know like we we've got to

772
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,079
come up with some

773
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:29,280
way to to secure our our skies and

774
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:30,000
oceans

775
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:33,440
let me ask you this if you think um like

776
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:37,680
this kind of slowly fades or dissipates

777
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:38,079
and

778
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:43,040
they're not mentioning anything about

779
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,480
what's going on with it

780
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:47,280
and like six months go by or whatever or

781
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:48,480
a year

782
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,839
year and a half like

783
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:54,000
do you think that would mean maybe those

784
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,599
congressmen

785
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:57,599
weren't impressed or that those videos

786
00:37:03,030 --> 00:36:59,760
weren't

787
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,040
you know sci-fi movies what would that

788
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:05,040
scenario look like you know because we

789
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:06,839
can kind of judge

790
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:09,760
truth from people's actions and their

791
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:11,839
reactions right

792
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:15,680
yeah and i think if it was that severe

793
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:18,800
i mean that it will keep going the way

794
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:19,440
it is

795
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,320
basically you know and if it wasn't it

796
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,079
would probably go backwards

797
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:26,480
so i think we should watch for that i

798
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,760
don't think i don't think it's going to

799
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:29,680
go backwards i think it's actually going

800
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:31,119
to accelerate um

801
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:34,079
i don't see how it could go backwards no

802
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:36,480
it's going to be positive

803
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:39,760
i think from what i i'm i'm seeing that

804
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:40,720
you know

805
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,720
i think the vast majority of congressmen

806
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:44,320
that's gone on the record have been

807
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:45,200
impressed

808
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,880
by what they've seen i mean even mitt

809
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,320
romney the most conservative

810
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,400
conservatives is kind of like

811
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:52,320
kind of admitting it that yeah there's

812
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:58,950
yeah yeah i mean he said um it's not

813
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,599
yours

814
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,440
um and then he goes i think it's clear

815
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:04,079
china and russia aren't there

816
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,520
and then okay so what are you saying

817
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,599
and then he goes but we have more

818
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:11,119
important things to worry about like

819
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:11,920
this and that

820
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:14,560
i'm like okay so you just said that

821
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:15,359
these things

822
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:18,240
are something truly bizarre and you're

823
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:18,720
not

824
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,200
concerned about it basically yeah yeah

825
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:23,280
and you've got steve bassett on next

826
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:23,839
week

827
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:26,160
who brought up the fact that actually

828
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:28,240
it's not just all about us so like

829
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:30,880
there may be a race for disclosure now

830
00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:32,079
so i mean

831
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,680
i don't think as a coincidence this

832
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,960
story appeared in the south china

833
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,720
morning post about web

834
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:38,240
phenomena i think it was weather

835
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:39,680
phenomena or something like that wasn't

836
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:40,640
it

837
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:42,320
i remember what they referred to just

838
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,960
now something along those lines

839
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,720
um i don't think that was a freak

840
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:48,960
occurrence that that came out and

841
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:51,599
i i'm very very convinced that china

842
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:53,040
have tried to get this out through the

843
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:53,920
um

844
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,040
and i don't think i don't i don't think

845
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,960
its intentions have changed

846
00:39:03,190 --> 00:39:00,720
i mean to actually get on top of this

847
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:03,200
issue puts you in a dominant position as

848
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:04,640
a world leader

849
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:06,960
kind of um helping the world and other

850
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:09,599
countries navigate through this topic

851
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,880
and i think there is a race on for

852
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:14,079
disclosure between

853
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:17,680
the usa and china i think people at the

854
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:18,640
top levels

855
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:21,599
and intel circles are very much aware of

856
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,320
that

857
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:25,119
so there is no option to go back there's

858
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:26,880
no option to stay still they must go

859
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,680
forward

860
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:29,520
maybe even accelerate what they're doing

861
00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:30,720
at the moment

862
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:33,280
and it's definitely there's something i

863
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:35,200
mean some people don't like the question

864
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:35,920
why now

865
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:39,280
i realize that i still ask that question

866
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:42,000
because it's been happening for a long

867
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:42,720
time

868
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:45,920
so why is there a kind of a tipping

869
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:46,720
point now

870
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,230
there's like an uptick and it's starting

871
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,640
to get kind of like dangerous

872
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:58,240
because the whole time they've always

873
00:40:01,829 --> 00:39:59,839
said but there's no

874
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,839
national security risk like on all their

875
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:03,599
little reports to everybody

876
00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:06,960
you know in the 60s and 50s

877
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:08,839
we don't know what these are they do

878
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:11,680
explain crazy stuff but

879
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:14,240
it's not you know a national security

880
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:14,960
threat

881
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:17,599
so they don't really tell anyone or they

882
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:20,240
do stuff still but they don't really

883
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,160
you know tell anyone so i wonder if

884
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:27,359
you know that's changed it has it has i

885
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:28,400
can tell you that

886
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,440
um not by kind of like no

887
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:33,280
no but i think it was actually mentioned

888
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:35,119
by rubio or something like that that

889
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:36,640
actually

890
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:40,240
what's happening i think lou said it as

891
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:40,880
well but

892
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:42,800
i mean he speculated whether that might

893
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,480
be a case just that there's more of an

894
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:46,400
awareness into what's happening now so

895
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,160
more people are going to report it

896
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,079
but actually i think it was very much

897
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,160
hinted and suggested that

898
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:55,359
it's it's actually escalated

899
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,119
um he's much louder than neutron

900
00:41:04,829 --> 00:41:01,520
i don't know yeah my mic is just jacked

901
00:41:04,839 --> 00:41:08,790
oh

902
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,790
yeah i don't know what's going on but

903
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:12,480
maybe is that louder

904
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:14,960
yeah yeah i can hear you fine okay

905
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:16,000
that's not a problem at

906
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,319
all i'll turn it up if it's too loud let

907
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:22,240
me know

908
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,240
that's okay it's okay um

909
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:29,440
yeah what were we talking about just why

910
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:30,319
now

911
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:34,480
well

912
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:37,680
so random yeah

913
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,000
the genesis of this whole thing is i i

914
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,240
think i heard tom mentioned before that

915
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:44,079
actually it was like a blink 182 fan or

916
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:45,440
something like that that put him in

917
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:47,680
contact with someone from

918
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:50,880
oh right right yeah isn't that weird

919
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,000
it's like up here we go yeah

920
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,560
yeah but it also makes you think as well

921
00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:58,480
because tom mentioned before

922
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,920
and um i hate to i hate to put lou on

923
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:03,680
the spot here as well but

924
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,880
i mean tom said before that um

925
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:08,400
lots the best talent now when they get

926
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,920
out of university

927
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:11,760
like engineers and whatnot they want to

928
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:14,000
go to spacex they want to go to tesla

929
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,400
all the sexy new companies and actually

930
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:18,079
not as much of the talent is going to

931
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,920
companies like lockheed now

932
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,760
and i think part of like the angle he

933
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,760
was coming at when it came to

934
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,680
transparency and disclosure was actually

935
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:27,520
to kind of attract more talent to

936
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:30,720
lockheed yeah and places like that

937
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:33,920
and when lou was on um

938
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:36,880
with louise jimenez and they fur he

939
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:38,720
first suggested big phone home

940
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:39,760
if you want to go back to that

941
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:42,640
conversation lou actually suggested that

942
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:45,119
they hold a big festival

943
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:47,280
um with young people coming with bands

944
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,160
and stuff

945
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:51,200
um about disclosure and that you'd also

946
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,800
have lockheed and other defense

947
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,400
contractors there as well

948
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:56,000
and it would be a place for them to help

949
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,680
like recruit i don't know i may be

950
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:59,200
getting that wrong you have to go back

951
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:00,560
to the interview when

952
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,920
um louise uh initially um

953
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:06,400
interviewed me but i mean i think yeah

954
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:07,440
that would be kind of

955
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:10,400
that's a that's an intense thing to say

956
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:13,200
get this

957
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:17,040
well i did find um this

958
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:20,800
interesting uh cia document right

959
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:23,920
um from the 1950 whatever

960
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:27,520
something and it's

961
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:35,190
newspaper got like a a secret note

962
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:38,880
that uh glenn f martin

963
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:42,720
was the person that made the saucers

964
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:45,280
and it you know they weren't ufos or

965
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:45,839
whatever

966
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,480
and that they were meant to go from one

967
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:49,599
area to the next

968
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:52,319
what like one round only and they would

969
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,800
just fall in the ocean or on the ground

970
00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:56,480
and they were meant to just drop a

971
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:57,920
nuclear bomb

972
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,119
and then not come back that's what he

973
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:02,800
wrote in this thing

974
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:06,079
and glenn martin

975
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:09,599
is one half a lockheed martin

976
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,240
isn't that weird but it's not

977
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:14,240
corroborated it's just like a freaking

978
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:15,920
note that somebody said

979
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,040
you know or the newspaper so

980
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,599
this guy could be crazy i guess but you

981
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:24,000
know it's still weird

982
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:25,280
i think there's a lot of things

983
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,510
yeah nazis and all that stuff too but

984
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,920
yeah well there's a lot of components at

985
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:35,599
play i guess i mean

986
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:38,240
so for instance like um let's say if

987
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,000
there was a sorcerer crash back in the

988
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:42,319
30s okay mussolini sent a bunch of

989
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:44,000
scientists to look at it

990
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,520
including marconi he's very famous um

991
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:49,200
so did italy kind of make any

992
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,560
breakthroughs does it copy some of the

993
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:52,240
craft did it share some of his knowledge

994
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:53,280
with germany

995
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,520
did germany discover any of the craft i

996
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:57,359
mean we always hear about the famous

997
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:00,560
bell um although i'm not sure i know

998
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,760
that nick cook's

999
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,520
um looked into it by the way nick cook

1000
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:06,079
if you can get nick cook onto your show

1001
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:09,200
um he is absolutely amazing i mean he's

1002
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,760
one of the

1003
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,520
reasons i'm into the topic in the first

1004
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,440
place that's right he's got some great

1005
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:15,599
links with lockheed martin he used to be

1006
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,040
i think um editor very very big

1007
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,079
senior journalist for james okay

1008
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,560
awesome thanks for the tip yeah he's

1009
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:26,240
he's very very good so he can go into

1010
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:27,760
like the history

1011
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:30,960
of this in terms of black budget

1012
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:33,200
i'll surprise him with the the story i

1013
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:34,560
just told you about

1014
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:42,230
handwritten note to a newspaper

1015
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,630
he did mention something really um

1016
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,160
interesting in his book

1017
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:58,480
um search for zero point nick cook did

1018
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:59,280
and

1019
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,520
it was like back in like the 50s like

1020
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:03,920
there was this elusive search for um

1021
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:07,359
zero point gravity um interesting

1022
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:10,720
and um according to like a lot of

1023
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:13,359
news reports and stuff like that like

1024
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:15,359
all like the big defense contractors

1025
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,800
were always saying we're on the brink of

1026
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,079
cracking it we're on the brink of

1027
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:19,760
solving it

1028
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,920
and they were actively like searching

1029
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:23,280
for it was like a really big debate at

1030
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:24,160
the time

1031
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:27,440
um and then it just went silent

1032
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,730
yeah oh probably because they cracked it

1033
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,400
[Laughter]

1034
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:34,480
right or they'd still be talking about

1035
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:35,680
it wouldn't they

1036
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:38,960
yeah absolutely yeah i didn't get it

1037
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:42,800
or yeah we got it here it is

1038
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:46,480
you know i'm one of the dude yeah

1039
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:49,359
absolutely instead it's nothing so

1040
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:50,160
something worked

1041
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:51,680
[Laughter]

1042
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:54,800
yeah yeah no definitely and i think as

1043
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,520
well like

1044
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,359
i think that luke could i don't know if

1045
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:59,520
he would know if that technology existed

1046
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:00,319
or not

1047
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:03,359
um but i i think if he did know it

1048
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,160
existed

1049
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,839
i think it would be a different ballpark

1050
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,200
if you asked him

1051
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:09,280
does the tr3b exist and he said no

1052
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,319
comment

1053
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:12,480
yeah i think that would be a big big

1054
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:14,240
no-no if he was to say that

1055
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,680
no comment because you're basically

1056
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,160
giving away that yeah the us has this

1057
00:47:33,590 --> 00:47:20,000
like big secret technology so

1058
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:37,109
[Laughter]

1059
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:39,040
i want to ask you something like what do

1060
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:41,839
you think about the ultra-terrestrial

1061
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,640
kind of hypotheses that and and it goes

1062
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:46,800
back to like the greek gods and

1063
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:49,440
atlantis and stuff like the gods and

1064
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:49,920
stuff

1065
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:53,119
like that um hey which i got from my

1066
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,319
father-in-law

1067
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,880
actually because he had it i have yet to

1068
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,400
read it but um

1069
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,440
i you know there's a part of me that is

1070
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:03,760
kind of refraining from diving too

1071
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:06,960
deep into the different possibilities

1072
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,520
because one i'm afraid of not coming

1073
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:11,200
back out

1074
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:12,800
from one of them down the rabbit hole

1075
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:14,319
and yeah and

1076
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:18,400
two it's just like

1077
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:21,280
none of them will make sense without

1078
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,079
more data

1079
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,319
like all of them will be there it's

1080
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,079
going to be a lot of equally

1081
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,720
interesting theories that make sense

1082
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:29,520
that i'll

1083
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:32,800
want to latch on to and

1084
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,000
for me i just think it's dangerous until

1085
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,400
i know more whether that's through my

1086
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:39,920
own meditation or

1087
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:43,599
research or whatever you know so

1088
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,400
but i do think that there's multiple

1089
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:48,319
things going on

1090
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:51,040
um i really do think there's whether

1091
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,599
it's

1092
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:53,440
part of what the government's working on

1093
00:48:58,340 --> 00:48:55,040
or not i do think

1094
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:58,350
there's a spiritual aspect to it um

1095
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,559
[Music]

1096
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:02,720
and i think there's probably there's a

1097
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,760
hard craft too

1098
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:05,520
nuts and bolts craft i think there's a

1099
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:07,040
lot happening

1100
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:09,119
in interdimensional is probably one of

1101
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:10,720
them or ultra

1102
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:14,480
um terrestrials could be

1103
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:17,119
you know there's i think once something

1104
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,440
like that exists you have to then admit

1105
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,920
that finally that you don't know

1106
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:22,960
anything

1107
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,880
and that this thing is proof that

1108
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:29,440
there's probably a whole lot more we

1109
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,800
don't know

1110
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,880
you know and what i'm most excited about

1111
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:34,400
is getting to that point

1112
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:37,440
so people can realize

1113
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:41,200
that and be nicer to each other

1114
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,359
you know because once something like

1115
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:45,440
that happens people realize that they're

1116
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:46,480
really

1117
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:49,680
vulnerable vulnerable to all the stuff

1118
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:54,400
they now um realize they don't know

1119
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:55,839
you know and that produces a different

1120
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:57,440
attitude in person

1121
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,200
so that's what i'm looking forward to

1122
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:01,680
the most to be honest with you

1123
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:04,800
and either way whatever it is is going

1124
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:05,920
to be exciting to me

1125
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:08,720
and i look forward to that you know

1126
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:11,440
absolutely i think

1127
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:12,720
you know like when you're sending out

1128
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:15,280
tweets or you're gonna say something to

1129
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:16,800
someone which you don't think is very

1130
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:17,520
nice

1131
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,280
just don't do it just think about the

1132
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,280
negative consequences

1133
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:23,280
like a lot of people just get on random

1134
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,880
arguments and twitter and stuff you know

1135
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:27,040
and um kind of like think before you say

1136
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:28,319
that like what is their emotional

1137
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:29,200
reaction going to be they're going to

1138
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:30,400
get angry

1139
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:32,240
um or they're going to get upset and

1140
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:33,599
think about how that's going to affect

1141
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:34,720
their day

1142
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,200
um you know they might lash on someone

1143
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,880
else and that other person lashes out on

1144
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:40,319
someone else

1145
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,400
yeah that that's the thing and i don't

1146
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:44,640
think people realize the consequences

1147
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:45,040
and

1148
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,800
too many people just good on arguments

1149
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,400
on twitter and it it's never ending

1150
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,400
because one wants to get another

1151
00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:52,559
score against the other person whatever

1152
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:53,839
it's just back

1153
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,200
no one wins yeah totally totally

1154
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:00,720
i think it's more um the design flaw

1155
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,680
of these social media apps and their

1156
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:05,520
ability to

1157
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:09,359
um take advantage of people's

1158
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:11,920
reactions before they get to think you

1159
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:17,349
because you know they'll feel that

1160
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:18,000
instant

1161
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:21,040
reaction from that tweet or whatever and

1162
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:22,000
then yeah

1163
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:25,680
well i'd rather you know but

1164
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,040
how many times i bet has like

1165
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,040
you know a week or two weeks or day or

1166
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,880
hours went by and they're like man i

1167
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:34,480
should have thought about that one first

1168
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,000
you know all the time i mean

1169
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:41,200
but it's almost not their part

1170
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,800
like a little trap it's like a little

1171
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,319
emotional trap

1172
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,880
and it gets you in so much trouble like

1173
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:48,480
those are all things you wouldn't do in

1174
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:49,119
person

1175
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,400
you know real life yeah absolutely

1176
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,720
it's it's like insane like i play um i

1177
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:56,960
play on the xbox i play fifa on the xbox

1178
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,000
the football game

1179
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:00,160
and like i looked in my inbox like for

1180
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:01,760
the first time the other day

1181
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:04,240
and it's like just full of abuse like

1182
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:05,280
people say

1183
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:08,319
you and just like all these horrible

1184
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,400
things like to you and i'm like bloody

1185
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:12,240
how like people like get really wound up

1186
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:13,760
over a computer game and they just say

1187
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:14,720
the most

1188
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:17,119
horrific stuff i still think the people

1189
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:18,000
are the same

1190
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:21,760
it's just these like mirrors and outlets

1191
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,640
that are showing that stuff you know

1192
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,079
because

1193
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:28,079
you think people didn't get pissed at

1194
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:29,839
video games like when it was sega

1195
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:30,640
nintendo

1196
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:32,559
they threw the remote through the tv and

1197
00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:36,319
stuff but now they can like cuss at you

1198
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:38,559
for beating them you know and you have

1199
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:39,920
no there's no

1200
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,200
real person attached to it you know

1201
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:46,079
it's just a screen so they don't feel

1202
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:46,880
bad about it

1203
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:49,920
and it's an outlet for their frustration

1204
00:52:56,069 --> 00:52:53,680
yeah no absolutely absolutely

1205
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:56,079
it's it's not it's it's just not healthy

1206
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,800
people is it

1207
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:58,559
really and people have to break out of

1208
00:53:02,069 --> 00:53:00,319
that and i mean social media it's easy

1209
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,079
to do though too

1210
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:04,240
just gotta throw that in there yeah go

1211
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:05,119
ahead definitely

1212
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:07,520
definitely like sometimes what i'll do

1213
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:09,680
like oh on purpose he say to

1214
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:12,559
uap media uk team i'm on purpose he

1215
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:15,200
gonna troll you it's like an inside gag

1216
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:18,640
and like and just say don't take it

1217
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:19,839
seriously but i'm just gonna say

1218
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,240
something that's gonna annoy you

1219
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:24,240
so we kind of like try to try to make

1220
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,000
fun of it in a way but uh

1221
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:28,480
yeah that's another that's another thing

1222
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,920
but i can tell you in the uk though

1223
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:31,599
things getting better so i'm in contact

1224
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:32,720
with a uh

1225
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:35,280
a really cool journalist um called henry

1226
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:36,559
holloway from the sun

1227
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:39,040
so the sun is like the biggest uh yeah

1228
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:39,920
it's great he

1229
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:41,680
is the the sun is like a tabloid but

1230
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:43,040
it's like the biggest newspaper in the

1231
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,760
uk

1232
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:45,200
some people really hate it don't get me

1233
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,599
wrong but it's a great newspaper and

1234
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:49,359
i think it's it's got some really really

1235
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:50,640
top journalists and

1236
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:53,119
um henry is a senior foreign

1237
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,400
correspondent

1238
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:56,720
and um he's doing a really he's doing

1239
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:58,160
some really good stuff he takes it

1240
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,280
seriously

1241
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:01,119
he doesn't want to get bogged down and

1242
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:02,720
dog burn all the

1243
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,400
conspiracy theories and stuff he just

1244
00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:06,079
wants the facts because

1245
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:08,400
he realizes that it's a really important

1246
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,920
issue and also it's going to be great

1247
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:11,520
for his career too and i think

1248
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:13,440
even tom rogan the other day was you

1249
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:16,160
know praising henry's praises and

1250
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:17,680
you know i'm really hoping that more

1251
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,280
journalists um

1252
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:21,599
take the opportunity to um to come out

1253
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:22,319
because

1254
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,640
i mean the way i see it is that this

1255
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,240
issue i mean like

1256
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:28,160
let's say like january 2020 how how many

1257
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:30,400
people could have foreseen coveted being

1258
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,359
the dominar

1259
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:33,760
you know oh yeah dominant news story

1260
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,800
completely and this is going to be the

1261
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,480
dominant news story but it

1262
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:38,000
really could you know if journalists can

1263
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,400
get on top of it now and politicians can

1264
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:42,240
get up on top of it now

1265
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,839
it's gonna it's gonna be great for their

1266
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,359
careers as well yeah

1267
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:47,359
that's always the case for so many

1268
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:48,960
different things and they don't never do

1269
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:49,280
it

1270
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:51,680
you know they're like what do i have to

1271
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,559
deal with

1272
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:54,319
it's right in front of my face that'll

1273
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:56,960
take votes away from me if i don't

1274
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:00,240
yeah you know i hope

1275
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:03,520
uh that this gets there quick um

1276
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:05,599
because i'm so tired of like the games

1277
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,119
that they play dude just

1278
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:09,520
tell us what you got like enough is

1279
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:10,480
enough

1280
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:13,599
you know so i gotta tell you something

1281
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,680
and we're not ignorant to all the stuff

1282
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:16,960
that happened in the past

1283
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:19,839
there's so many documents and testimony

1284
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,240
that

1285
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:22,240
where it's the same freaking stuff as

1286
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:23,359
now

1287
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:30,640
i would say that a lot of people aren't

1288
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:32,079
aren't ready you've kind of like you've

1289
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:33,680
got to treat it like really really

1290
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:35,280
subtly and gently if you bought it all

1291
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:36,720
out at the same time no

1292
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,079
i think some of your businesses freak

1293
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:40,960
out then let them freak out don't move

1294
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:41,920
on

1295
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,680
you know you know my mom had a ufo

1296
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,599
experience like when she was younger she

1297
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,520
got chased like a triangle ufo

1298
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:49,839
oh my god um it's quite weird because

1299
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:56,069
i mean according to my my mom went

1300
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,839
through some really weird stuff like

1301
00:56:01,030 --> 00:56:00,000
back in the day you know in the late 70s

1302
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:01,040
early 80s and

1303
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:03,040
she was chased by a ufo like with her

1304
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:04,160
dog and

1305
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:05,920
ever since she's had like really weird

1306
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:08,000
experiences and weird dreams and stuff

1307
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:08,559
and

1308
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:10,319
in almost every one of those experiences

1309
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:12,480
she sees her dog

1310
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:15,280
dead and she never put the two and two

1311
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,000
together before

1312
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,559
that it all started after she saw the

1313
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,319
ufo and apparently like according to my

1314
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:22,000
mum it got reported in the knees at the

1315
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:22,559
time and

1316
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:24,640
um really it was practical yeah it was

1317
00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:27,200
tracked by um by heathrow apparently

1318
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:29,839
um and everything this ufo object was

1319
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,319
that

1320
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:32,559
obviously like i can't remember i need

1321
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:34,160
to ask i think it was like the later

1322
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:37,119
find out the info yeah i should really

1323
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:37,760
find out

1324
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:40,160
and like around like a few years later

1325
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:42,000
like my mom and dad they're watching tv

1326
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:43,200
they're watching the local

1327
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:46,559
television news network and itv and all

1328
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:47,920
of a sudden

1329
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:51,119
it gets hijacked from um from this voice

1330
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:52,960
like the news reporter is like a

1331
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:55,119
and now on to the weather will be and

1332
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,079
then it

1333
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,240
gently like fades out and it's like big

1334
00:57:00,950 --> 00:57:00,160
voice comes over saying that they're

1335
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:00,960
from

1336
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:04,160
um ashtar command we

1337
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:07,040
are ashtar command it's like bloody hell

1338
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,319
like what's this

1339
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:10,480
and um it's really famous because like

1340
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:11,760
no one could ever get to the bottom

1341
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,079
where

1342
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,880
this this came from who or who did it

1343
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,400
and like they still can't explain it no

1344
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:18,000
one's ever taken responsibility

1345
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:21,839
where did they listen again the message

1346
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:24,960
it came from a tv network okay yeah and

1347
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,440
you can

1348
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:27,200
i'll send you a link there's an

1349
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:28,480
interesting

1350
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,680
something like that um

1351
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,839
uh here so it was a person who was

1352
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:35,359
working on the atomic bomb

1353
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:38,880
at um uh los alamos his name was dr leon

1354
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:40,160
davidson

1355
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:43,839
um there's some documents in black volt

1356
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:46,480
and one person did a really crummy story

1357
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:48,079
on it

1358
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:51,440
and uh but i found more like on in

1359
00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:55,040
more documents and um it was very

1360
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:57,440
interesting because

1361
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,760
he had like a space tape or something

1362
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:00,960
like a recording

1363
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,240
allegedly um from someone spate

1364
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:06,720
from space giving a message or you know

1365
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:08,000
and he gave it to uh

1366
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:12,559
attic um at uh wright patterson

1367
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:16,079
to like check it out see if it's legit

1368
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:16,720
what does it say

1369
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:19,200
translate it and they kept like brushing

1370
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:20,480
them off and they wouldn't give them the

1371
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:21,440
tape back

1372
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:22,960
and at first they said it was morris

1373
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,720
code and

1374
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,400
he was like that's not morse code you

1375
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:27,920
know like

1376
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,880
what does it say and then they said it

1377
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:32,960
was actually from an american

1378
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:35,359
uh it's just a general american radio

1379
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,000
frequency

1380
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:38,880
it was totally normal but they wouldn't

1381
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:39,920
give him the tape

1382
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:42,160
and they wouldn't even tell him like

1383
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:43,520
okay then what

1384
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,119
frequency who did it where did it come

1385
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:47,680
from then they wouldn't tell him

1386
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:49,920
and the documents say like yeah just so

1387
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,760
you know this leon davidson's all over

1388
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,040
our butts again

1389
00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:56,000
um you know just say this i do want to

1390
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:56,880
keep him

1391
00:59:01,430 --> 00:59:00,160
like close to us or whatever though um

1392
00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:01,440
probably because he was working on the

1393
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:03,520
atomic bomb i guess

1394
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,799
but like that story i told you about

1395
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:06,960
that was written before it like had

1396
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:09,839
no idea who even leon davidson was like

1397
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:10,559
that's a

1398
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:13,119
that makes the story that much more of a

1399
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:14,319
big deal

1400
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,870
one of the best advocates out there

1401
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,720
we're now a researcher who's finding

1402
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:30,559
some really unique stuff like

1403
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:43,670
my weakness uh i'm too open sometimes

1404
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:44,880
too sherry

1405
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,799
to so i allow myself to be

1406
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:50,720
a little vulnerable sometimes i have

1407
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,079
weakness of not

1408
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:54,960
trusting myself for other people because

1409
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:56,079
of all this

1410
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:59,280
you know history and baggage

1411
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:01,119
but i'm getting over that stuff for sure

1412
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:03,040
patience

1413
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,720
yeah i think that weaknesses are

1414
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:06,079
actually unique strengths you know like

1415
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,920
i've got like a condition called primary

1416
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:09,680
reading epilepsy i'm always forgetting

1417
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:10,400
words

1418
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:12,559
i can only read for so long can i write

1419
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,599
for so long

1420
01:00:17,349 --> 01:00:15,599
yeah but you know like how that has

1421
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:17,359
become you know come some really really

1422
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:18,480
unique stuff that

1423
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:21,599
i think i'm quite good at so um i mean

1424
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:22,640
i think you should embrace your

1425
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,720
weaknesses and actually you know they

1426
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,960
can be blessings in disguise of one

1427
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:29,200
you know sometimes but i want to ask you

1428
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:30,160
something like

1429
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:34,400
okay so i i saw that lou mentioned

1430
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:35,760
something the other day about

1431
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,200
the top deck of a u.s naval ship having

1432
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:41,119
to be evacuated

1433
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:44,400
and um yeah the top deck everyone had to

1434
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:45,040
get

1435
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,799
out from the top deck and go below

1436
01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:48,160
because there was stuff in this

1437
01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:50,880
things in the sky um because of a uap

1438
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:52,559
incident everyone had to evacuate the

1439
01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:53,599
top deck

1440
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,760
and i'm i'm thinking to myself i'd be

1441
01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:57,280
myself you know

1442
01:01:01,750 --> 01:01:00,000
like you're you're serving on a you know

1443
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:01,760
naval destroyer cruiser

1444
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:03,680
then all of a sudden like comes these

1445
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:05,359
weird objects in the sky you have no

1446
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:06,640
idea what they are they're doing in the

1447
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:08,000
news you don't know

1448
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,880
you are there alone maybe you know your

1449
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:12,799
anti-drone technology isn't working

1450
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:14,240
you're seeing stuff in the radar doesn't

1451
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:15,119
make sense

1452
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,559
i'd be pretty scared yeah so what's the

1453
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:19,839
question

1454
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:23,599
so i'm thinking would i grab my pants

1455
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:27,440
yes i would

1456
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,680
i got this from my sunnyvale's birthday

1457
01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:31,680
that's a dinosaur

1458
01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:35,119
no no no no i'm thinking but

1459
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:36,559
because you're like you were saying

1460
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:38,079
about you know all the secrecy and stuff

1461
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:39,359
like that you know they give them

1462
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:40,799
this recording and they don't give it

1463
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:42,880
back and all this stuff and it seems

1464
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:44,960
like a overreaction but can you imagine

1465
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:45,839
like

1466
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:48,559
if the stories are true i mean timothy

1467
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:50,720
good says this as well and that

1468
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,960
you know like you're in the u.s military

1469
01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:54,240
whatever and all of a sudden you

1470
01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:56,000
discover this stuff that's coming from

1471
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,000
you don't know where it's beyond any

1472
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:59,839
capability you're discovering bodies

1473
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:00,960
you're like what uh

1474
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:02,240
yeah everybody you're the person you've

1475
01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:03,760
got to come home to your family every

1476
01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:04,559
day

1477
01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:07,359
being like yeah things are fine yeah you

1478
01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:08,559
would think they'd put that

1479
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:11,359
like or like you they'd tell you when

1480
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:12,240
you enlist

1481
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:14,079
you know all right just so you know you

1482
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:16,079
might see some aliens and stuff

1483
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:18,640
are you ready for that you know because

1484
01:02:22,069 --> 01:02:20,240
because if i got in it and all of a

1485
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:22,079
sudden i see this i'd be like whoa whoa

1486
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:23,280
whoa whoa

1487
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:29,349
where was this on the in the boot camp

1488
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:30,559
training you know

1489
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:32,000
you didn't have his jack and alien

1490
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:38,870
i just i just can't imagine like coming

1491
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:40,880
home every day it's like

1492
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:44,400
oh hi yeah how was your day fine

1493
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,520
same as yesterday going to sleep crying

1494
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,760
oh my gosh because i think it was tom

1495
01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:53,280
delanchy was saying like when he learned

1496
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:55,039
about this like he had a few sleepless

1497
01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:56,559
nights he just couldn't sleep

1498
01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:58,640
yeah disturbed him that much yeah that's

1499
01:03:14,710 --> 01:02:59,680
yeah right

1500
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,309
you can

1501
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:22,549
found this one was this from

1502
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:25,599
uh this redlands case 1958 i don't i

1503
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:26,400
don't know if it

1504
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:27,760
they want i'm sure they wound up

1505
01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:29,680
debunking it but

1506
01:03:34,470 --> 01:03:32,720
um it's interesting found it in the

1507
01:03:37,829 --> 01:03:34,480
national archives

1508
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:39,349
scott could probably tell me if it's

1509
01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,240
bullcrap or not

1510
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,319
absolutely but i thought it was

1511
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:46,720
interesting anyways

1512
01:03:51,029 --> 01:03:49,359
how you're getting some like uh

1513
01:03:54,309 --> 01:03:51,039
it'd be like a really cool piece of like

1514
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:56,390
i can see that on my wall yeah even if

1515
01:03:59,030 --> 01:03:57,520
it was like just a

1516
01:04:01,750 --> 01:03:59,040
toad or something

1517
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:01,760
[Laughter]

1518
01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:04,160
yeah they the national archives has some

1519
01:04:07,270 --> 01:04:04,880
stuff but

1520
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:07,280
um lou is right it's it's really about

1521
01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:08,799
um

1522
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,280
you have to know where you're looking

1523
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:15,839
you have to know the acronym and the

1524
01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:17,760
place that the stuff is at

1525
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:19,680
so when i started researching i put most

1526
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:21,200
of my effort into

1527
01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:24,480
getting the right um

1528
01:04:27,670 --> 01:04:26,240
you know agencies and all that kind of

1529
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:27,680
stuff to look into

1530
01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:30,160
you know so in like blue book and all

1531
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:32,000
that grudge i start looking into that

1532
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:32,480
and

1533
01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:35,680
i realize that atic

1534
01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:38,720
attic was actually um the department

1535
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:40,319
behind all this stuff like

1536
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,240
those are code names and projects were

1537
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,559
in through the attic office

1538
01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:46,319
so if you're gonna go search for

1539
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:47,839
something

1540
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:50,240
you know it'll go a lot better if you

1541
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:51,440
search attic

1542
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:53,599
instead of individually grudged blue

1543
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:54,480
book this that

1544
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:56,720
and go over here you know attic's gonna

1545
01:05:01,670 --> 01:04:58,240
be tagged on all this stuff

1546
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:01,680
and osi for that time frame you know

1547
01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:05,920
um so that's how i like figuring stuff

1548
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,799
out you know that's

1549
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:10,559
i don't know but i think it's just like

1550
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,559
a fresh perspective sometimes

1551
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:14,799
it kind of allows me to go in fresh

1552
01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:17,119
without any biases and just like

1553
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:18,880
see if i can figure something out you

1554
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:21,359
know you know and i just yeah

1555
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:23,440
whatever tools i have used throughout my

1556
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:25,440
whole life to do that kind of stuff you

1557
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:26,640
know

1558
01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:29,680
um whether it be work or a manager or

1559
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,119
whatever

1560
01:05:34,829 --> 01:05:33,119
and so far it's going pretty well but it

1561
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:34,839
is definitely

1562
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:37,760
um not straightforward

1563
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:41,359
and there's stuff like i haven't even

1564
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:44,480
started dabbling in uh going to foyer

1565
01:05:49,430 --> 01:05:46,160
reading rooms for

1566
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:49,440
other branches of the military yet

1567
01:05:55,029 --> 01:05:52,720
so far they've been frustrating a lot

1568
01:05:58,630 --> 01:05:55,039
more so than the cias

1569
01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:58,640
but um i'll get there i'll figure it out

1570
01:06:25,430 --> 01:05:59,039
i

1571
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:25,440
frame because that's what they'll call

1572
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,319
them

1573
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:28,480
yeah so you could find a lot of stuff by

1574
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:30,720
searching flying disk or flying saucer

1575
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:31,039
or

1576
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:34,400
whatever but and i still

1577
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:37,520
like i download this stuff and

1578
01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:39,200
i gotta make sure i go back and read

1579
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:40,480
through them because like i'll see

1580
01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:41,920
something interesting at the time and

1581
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:42,319
like

1582
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:45,280
oh i'll save that and then you know i

1583
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:46,559
got to get organized

1584
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:50,000
but what about you you into researching

1585
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,160
um i need to but i was going to say that

1586
01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:54,240
great graeme rendell's very very good

1587
01:07:02,549 --> 01:06:56,720
yeah researching yeah he's the master

1588
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:04,950
you can do whatever you want if you put

1589
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:07,359
enough time into it you know

1590
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:09,039
no definitely i do want to authenticate

1591
01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:10,559
something i mean timothy good

1592
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:13,839
claimed that um well his version of

1593
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:15,440
events is that

1594
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:17,599
at first like when the phenomenon

1595
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:19,440
started appearing over the states

1596
01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:22,480
we started shooting at them um

1597
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:24,079
trying to shoot these down and

1598
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:26,880
apparently we stopped doing that because

1599
01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:28,880
there was massive retaliation

1600
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:30,880
and according to timothy yeah according

1601
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:32,400
to timothy good

1602
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:34,880
if you look into it you will see that

1603
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:36,640
there was an abnormal amount of

1604
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:39,680
plane crashes um both civilian and

1605
01:07:44,069 --> 01:07:40,640
military

1606
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:44,079
in the late 40s early 50s and he

1607
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:46,240
timothy good claims that look like a lot

1608
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:47,280
of these reasons

1609
01:07:50,710 --> 01:07:50,079
don't stack up as to why these like

1610
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:50,720
aircraft

1611
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:53,280
kept on crashing and his big claim is

1612
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:54,160
that

1613
01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:55,760
it was actually the phenomenon causing

1614
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:58,000
these crashes well

1615
01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:00,079
i thought that was pretty interesting to

1616
01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:01,440
authenticate that

1617
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:04,799
i i've just ran across like a a good

1618
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:06,160
amount of

1619
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:08,480
again i forgot where it was but uh it

1620
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:10,640
was i could find it again it was just a

1621
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:11,440
lot of um

1622
01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:15,039
reports of um

1623
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:17,199
crashes plane crashes in the sky and

1624
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:18,159
people dying

1625
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:22,080
in them military reports um but i didn't

1626
01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:22,400
look

1627
01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:24,080
far enough to see if there was like a

1628
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:26,000
lot in one certain time frame or if it

1629
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:27,520
was spread out or anything

1630
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:29,839
i just saw like nothing that really

1631
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:31,120
pointed to

1632
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:33,040
ufo so i kind of just went through it

1633
01:08:37,749 --> 01:08:35,359
quick and moved on but

1634
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:37,759
um i should go back and maybe see if

1635
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:40,239
anything relates to any

1636
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:43,839
exciting cases or testimony

1637
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:47,120
who knows yeah absolutely it's something

1638
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,359
to um to pick up and i think

1639
01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:51,359
part of it now in terms of what we're

1640
01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:53,199
doing is we get more information coming

1641
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:54,799
out it's kind of looking at what

1642
01:08:59,349 --> 01:08:56,880
previous researchers have claimed

1643
01:09:02,309 --> 01:08:59,359
in research to see actually do the

1644
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:02,319
pieces fit together from what they said

1645
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:04,080
and can we do we now have enough

1646
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:05,440
information to kind of like building

1647
01:09:08,149 --> 01:09:07,120
their theories of what they found out

1648
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:08,159
beforehand

1649
01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:11,359
yeah well and we have to be uh careful

1650
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:12,000
with that

1651
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:14,400
and this is my theory the reason i found

1652
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:15,600
the attic thing

1653
01:09:20,229 --> 01:09:18,719
you know if i just listen to other

1654
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:20,239
people's research i wouldn't have known

1655
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:20,640
that

1656
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:22,960
and it's because like they have these

1657
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:24,400
code names then people will just

1658
01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:26,560
remember these code names as time moves

1659
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,199
on

1660
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:29,120
they think back and say oh grudge blue

1661
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:31,040
book and they never go back again to say

1662
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:32,640
did we miss anything here

1663
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:36,000
yes you did it's attic ran all these

1664
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,359
you know you might have known they

1665
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:39,520
existed but not to what extent

1666
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:42,799
um so

1667
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,799
but generally speaking yes but i think

1668
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,799
it's also smart to do your double checks

1669
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:48,000
your own double checks

1670
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:51,440
at least on the area of interest for you

1671
01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:54,480
you know um just because it gives you

1672
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:56,320
confidence to go deeper i guess

1673
01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:59,440
i don't know yeah i definitely i want to

1674
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,400
find more information

1675
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:02,560
as well about you remember watching the

1676
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:03,520
phenomena where

1677
01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:06,480
jack valet says that document changed my

1678
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:07,120
life i'm

1679
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:09,040
sorry that's the worst french accent

1680
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:10,159
ever

1681
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:13,280
um no he said that documentary check is

1682
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:29,830
uh rocky or something

1683
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,360
what do you like to do is like i like

1684
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:33,120
speaking french in like a northern irish

1685
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:34,159
accent

1686
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:37,440
mudra linder like really like heavy

1687
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:38,320
accent

1688
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,679
you know can you imagine like can you

1689
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:41,679
imagine like andy speaking french for

1690
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:44,159
instance heavy scottish accent

1691
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:47,280
a russian spanish yeah

1692
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:53,430
i'm gonna put that like if andy is brave

1693
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:55,760
enough to have you on his show one day

1694
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:57,360
i'm just going to put that to the test

1695
01:11:03,910 --> 01:10:58,719
you know to see what he sounds like in

1696
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:05,590
i'm not fluent in any i know a bit of

1697
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:08,159
german i know a bit of um

1698
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:10,880
french spanish but not not fluent

1699
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:11,760
definitely not

1700
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:13,760
i can't even speak my wife's language

1701
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:15,920
which is tagalog so

1702
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:17,920
um and they all like to laugh at me when

1703
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:21,280
i try and fall down flat my face

1704
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:24,080
already then i just think it's fun this

1705
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:25,520
thing is funny they just think it's

1706
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:26,000
funny

1707
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:28,640
i always got a southern accent that i do

1708
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:30,880
like southern america

1709
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:33,679
so i'd be like hey kristoff all the way

1710
01:11:36,470 --> 01:11:34,719
from the uk

1711
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:36,480
how the hell are you doing cheese and

1712
01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:37,760
bear woo hoo

1713
01:11:40,620 --> 01:11:39,199
you see those meow balls up there

1714
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:40,630
doesn't bad boys

1715
01:11:46,709 --> 01:11:44,320
[Laughter]

1716
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:46,719
i learned that from uh having to watch

1717
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:47,520
uh

1718
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:49,760
like forensic files and old murder shows

1719
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:51,520
because my wife loves it so much and i

1720
01:11:55,030 --> 01:11:52,960
feel like every

1721
01:11:57,310 --> 01:11:55,040
witness in there is like i don't know i

1722
01:12:02,950 --> 01:11:57,320
went to the bathroom and she was dead

1723
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:05,750
to my friend my friend sarah she's the

1724
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:07,600
nicest person you could ever meet in the

1725
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,320
world

1726
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:10,800
and she wouldn't even like her aunts but

1727
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:12,159
the thing is like

1728
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,880
she's so nice that when she's speaking

1729
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:16,320
to someone even if they're like from

1730
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,360
another country or not

1731
01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:18,960
she she doesn't mean to do it but she

1732
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:21,679
mimics our accent when she's dead

1733
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:24,880
yeah that's weird yeah

1734
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:27,920
like for my for my uh job or whatever

1735
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:28,560
like i

1736
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:32,560
i call texas sometimes and i totally

1737
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:37,600
want to so bad hello hey this is sean

1738
01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:44,790
i don't want to but you know um

1739
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,400
i can't yeah i can't do it all right uh

1740
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:50,000
you want to talk about anything else

1741
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:52,000
here before we no i was just going to

1742
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:52,960
say that that

1743
01:12:57,130 --> 01:12:54,800
jacques ballet document when he said

1744
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,140
that document changed my laugh

1745
01:13:02,709 --> 01:12:59,600
[Laughter]

1746
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:02,719
document changed my life for his gump

1747
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:05,120
that's what you sounded like

1748
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:08,480
i'm just kidding but um

1749
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:10,000
i wonder like i want to look more into

1750
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:11,920
that because he was claiming that

1751
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:13,199
actually he found

1752
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,800
evidence in terms of document that

1753
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:16,560
parallel investigation was

1754
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:18,960
happening at the same time as project

1755
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:20,880
blue book and it was much much better

1756
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:21,920
funded

1757
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:24,159
and it like patel or someone like that

1758
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:25,760
was involved as well

1759
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:28,800
um yeah patel was there

1760
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,640
is patel and this would be the attic

1761
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:32,640
route an ftd

1762
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:36,480
uh foreign trade um division

1763
01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:39,280
or no foreign technology division in the

1764
01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:40,960
60s

1765
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:45,120
that's who did all that

1766
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:49,760
so atec and then it changed to ftd

1767
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:53,520
foreign uh technology division and then

1768
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:56,159
eventually it changed into there's an

1769
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:57,920
aerial phenomenon office

1770
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:01,440
it changed too yeah i didn't know about

1771
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:02,400
that one

1772
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:05,520
uh air intelligence agency was another

1773
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:07,360
one

1774
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:11,040
um and eventually it all led back to uh

1775
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:14,560
national air space intelligence center

1776
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:15,360
or something

1777
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:17,040
but all these places have always been at

1778
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:20,080
right patterson too which is interesting

1779
01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:22,960
wow that's incredible there's there's

1780
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:24,400
definitely stuff happening behind the

1781
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:25,679
scenes and i'll finish off by this

1782
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:27,280
there's an article that you can read

1783
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:29,199
and i'll show you it it's um i think it

1784
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:30,640
was the national recon's

1785
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:33,440
office and it was like a few years ago

1786
01:14:36,870 --> 01:14:35,360
and

1787
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,880
i don't know why a bigger deal wasn't

1788
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:38,400
made about it but um

1789
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:41,040
they just happened to have two spare

1790
01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:43,280
telescopes that they could give to nasa

1791
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:45,760
um and like both the telescopes were

1792
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:47,920
just as good if not better i think than

1793
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:49,120
hubble

1794
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:50,800
just lying around they're like yeah we

1795
01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:52,000
just had these we don't need them

1796
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:52,719
anymore

1797
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:55,360
massey you could have it it's like okay

1798
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:56,159
so if

1799
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:58,560
if they don't even need those goats what

1800
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:00,159
what do they use

1801
01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:03,440
nro reminds me of this group that i

1802
01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:07,199
found um from the 50s or 1947 it started

1803
01:15:14,709 --> 01:15:10,239
called the watch committee

1804
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:14,719
um who was basically their task was to

1805
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,960
be the first informed of like a imminent

1806
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,480
attack

1807
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:20,480
and it was the head of like each agency

1808
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:23,360
uh like of each intelligence agency

1809
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:26,800
for the air force army cia fbi

1810
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:30,320
everything and they would meet and they

1811
01:15:32,870 --> 01:15:31,120
were also

1812
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:32,880
the watch committee was mentioned in the

1813
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:36,560
uh wilson davis documents

1814
01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:40,239
or the gatekeeper watch committee um

1815
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:42,880
but no one knows who they are and i

1816
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:43,600
looked

1817
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:46,239
it up and sure there was a watch

1818
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:48,560
committee

1819
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:50,400
i can't prove that they have anything to

1820
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:51,600
do with that stuff but

1821
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:54,480
i have plenty of papers talking about

1822
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:55,679
the watch committee

1823
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:59,440
you know um

1824
01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:02,080
it's just interesting yeah no one's

1825
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,719
really

1826
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:04,239
and i didn't have to do anything special

1827
01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:07,840
i just i literally went to cia but

1828
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:11,679
watch committee enter

1829
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,000
boom you should write something up about

1830
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:15,760
it why not why not write an article and

1831
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:17,280
send it to the debrief

1832
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:19,840
i'm not like an article writer oh you

1833
01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:21,040
can do that definitely

1834
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:22,560
definitely we'll just give the

1835
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:24,640
information to tim tim macmillan just

1836
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:25,360
say look

1837
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:27,199
or mj just saying i've got a really good

1838
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:32,790
get back to me um i tried to get in

1839
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:34,400
touch with greenwald about

1840
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:36,239
some documents i found and maybe some

1841
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:38,560
guidance doesn't get back to me

1842
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:41,440
uh he never gets back to me so i don't

1843
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:42,880
know

1844
01:16:46,149 --> 01:16:45,040
not a big deal people don't watch the

1845
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:46,159
news

1846
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:47,600
well i'll tell you what like you know

1847
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,440
like i'll get in touch with like the uap

1848
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:51,120
media guys maybe we can publish

1849
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:52,560
something on our site or something like

1850
01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:53,440
that you know

1851
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:55,520
yeah i attract a bit to the us i don't

1852
01:16:58,630 --> 01:16:57,440
know i'm speaking on behalf of someone

1853
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:58,640
that i don't have permission to yeah

1854
01:17:02,870 --> 01:16:58,960
yeah

1855
01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:02,880
i will do whatever i can to help you um

1856
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:04,800
yeah and we'll we'll get there you know

1857
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:06,800
so yeah keep in touch

1858
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:09,120
um if they had anything to do with

1859
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:09,840
spaceships

1860
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:12,640
i would but i don't you know it's just

1861
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,440
they exist

1862
01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:15,520
and they're in these nodes too well we

1863
01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:17,280
came closest the brits did like there

1864
01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:18,159
was that guy

1865
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:20,239
um is it mckenna i can't remember his

1866
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:21,440
name now he was like did you hear the

1867
01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:22,239
case of like

1868
01:17:28,149 --> 01:17:25,280
he was like a uk computer hacker and

1869
01:17:29,110 --> 01:17:28,159
um he was like high on drugs something

1870
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:29,120
one day

1871
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:30,880
and it was like back in the early

1872
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:32,719
naughties and he decided to hack into

1873
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:33,920
the pension

1874
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:37,199
um and nasa and like on her computers

1875
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:39,360
and like he claimed that he saw like an

1876
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:40,560
excel spreadsheet

1877
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:43,679
showing non-terrestrial

1878
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:46,880
um and he also found

1879
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:49,520
some like images of like spacecraft he's

1880
01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:50,400
claiming

1881
01:17:55,590 --> 01:17:53,760
um when he was on there

1882
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:55,600
yeah no but it got really serious

1883
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:56,800
because he actually did

1884
01:18:02,070 --> 01:17:59,920
um he hacked into it and um there was a

1885
01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:02,080
really big case here and theresa may our

1886
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:02,480
former

1887
01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:03,920
prime minister had to get involved when

1888
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:06,080
she was home office minister

1889
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:07,840
um because the americans wanted to

1890
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:09,840
extract him and like put him away in

1891
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,880
prison for life

1892
01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:12,480
right but eventually like theresa may

1893
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:14,560
and barack obama came up with solutions

1894
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:15,679
saying that

1895
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:16,960
we're not going to put you in jail we're

1896
01:18:19,430 --> 01:18:18,239
not going to strike you to the us but it

1897
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:19,440
was like a really big thing at the time

1898
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:20,320
that guy

1899
01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:21,840
like was on the brink of being like sent

1900
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:23,679
to the u.s like hacking into nasa

1901
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:25,360
there's some you know there's all this

1902
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:27,120
stuff happening in the background all

1903
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:28,320
the time you know

1904
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:31,360
uh like you say it was a story at the

1905
01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:33,520
time i know but like at this point

1906
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:36,320
it's not right but that still happened

1907
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:37,440
that's not taken

1908
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:40,000
into account really anymore because

1909
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:40,800
there's so much

1910
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:44,239
like um a good um

1911
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:47,840
example is not too long ago i

1912
01:18:51,990 --> 01:18:50,719
found that somebody at wright patterson

1913
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,000
air force base

1914
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:55,040
in the electro optical um

1915
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:57,280
like department or whatever he was like

1916
01:19:05,350 --> 01:18:59,679
the head of that that was his big thing

1917
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:05,360
stole 2500 top secret documents

1918
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:08,320
and they busted him with them at his

1919
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,360
house

1920
01:19:13,510 --> 01:19:11,360
and he just like pled guilty yesterday

1921
01:19:16,630 --> 01:19:13,520
or a couple weeks ago rather

1922
01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:16,640
yeah um and they pretended

1923
01:19:20,830 --> 01:19:18,320
when they went to his house they

1924
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:20,840
pretended it was to bust him for a pot

1925
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:24,560
farm of course there's no platform

1926
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:28,239
gosh that's incredible bloody hell

1927
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:29,760
yeah i wonder if he was like a chinese

1928
01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:31,360
spy or something

1929
01:19:36,149 --> 01:19:33,920
uh he went to like the wright patterson

1930
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:36,159
like typical school or whatever

1931
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:38,560
college that's over there in ohio and

1932
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:39,600
all that

1933
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:41,679
so i don't know but that was i thought

1934
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:43,199
that was interesting and i tried telling

1935
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:45,199
so many people about it because

1936
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:48,960
it's he stole it out of like

1937
01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:50,960
the department that this kind of

1938
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:52,560
information would be in the

1939
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:55,040
technology science stuff and maybe he

1940
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:56,560
didn't take that but

1941
01:19:59,910 --> 01:19:58,400
even if a few things in there

1942
01:20:03,030 --> 01:19:59,920
accidentally you know

1943
01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:03,040
yeah who knows can you not like can you

1944
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:04,159
not like start a blog

1945
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:06,080
or something like that and just like you

1946
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:07,360
you know like um

1947
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:09,040
danny silva has one for instance you

1948
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:10,639
just keep it yeah don't write too much

1949
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:11,679
just like

1950
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:13,920
yeah let the information just speak for

1951
01:20:16,629 --> 01:20:15,040
itself i think you're coming up with

1952
01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:16,639
some really tough stuff here

1953
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:18,800
yeah i tried to talk about it on my on

1954
01:20:23,110 --> 01:20:19,679
my videos

1955
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but you know i think when you're talking

1956
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about documentation and stuff

1957
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it helps like if you can just put up on

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01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:28,719
a website then people can have a look

1959
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,800
for themselves it's like and what you

1960
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:32,480
can do is you can have it like a website

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and also you can have an accompanying

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video as well

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kind of like narrating what's actually

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happened so you can choose to read it

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or you can choose to like um like watch

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like a narration through video as well

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so you can have like i think that really

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helps and

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you can have like the links on there

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that you can click on uh the big

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images as well so i think that would be

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01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:53,280
really cool i'd like that i'd be a big

1973
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:53,920
fan yeah

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01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:56,080
that'd be cool well just for you i'll

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01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:57,679
think about it

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thank you

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i will write something for your blog

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when i as you know

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01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:09,520
stuff's happening with my work at the

1980
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:11,600
moment but when my notice period is up

1981
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:12,800
when i quit for good

1982
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:15,040
um i'll have more time and i really want

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01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:16,560
to write i mean writing is what i do for

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01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:17,280
a living

1985
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,600
for a career um as well as lobbying and

1986
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:21,120
stuff like that so i'd love to get more

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01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:22,639
time to do that i am going to make more

1988
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:24,400
time to do that soon as well

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01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:34,629
but yeah yeah let me get one more

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01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:36,719
message across i really want the yanks

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01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:40,000
you guys you the americans look at that

1992
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,080
i want you guys i want you guys to

1993
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:43,920
really help her up in the uk now

1994
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:46,320
as well like um yeah i think like we're

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coming up

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we're like a really really pivotal time

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01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:50,239
right now so

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i'd love nothing more than like you know

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01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:54,480
a sean

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01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:56,880
voice call for one of our mps saying

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01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:57,679
look

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01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,440
transparency in the government arsenal

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01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:01,440
us doing it what about the uk what's

2004
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:02,719
going on with you guys

2005
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:04,880
be great we need like to really push mps

2006
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:07,040
here so i mean if any of the american

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01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:08,159
guys can like

2008
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:09,760
even just get in touch with rmp's as

2009
01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:11,280
well just being like

2010
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,400
you know the stuff's coming out in the

2011
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:14,639
us already here for our british allies

2012
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:15,760
just something like that you know even

2013
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:16,800
though they're not from this country

2014
01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:17,760
will make a difference

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01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:21,360
what i was thinking too is having um

2016
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:23,840
a week on the show too where it's all

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01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:26,000
like

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01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:29,920
all you guys all europe all uap media

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01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:33,120
you know um and i highlight that kind of

2020
01:22:36,149 --> 01:22:34,320
stuff

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01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:36,159
that you're talking about right now you

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01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:37,600
know absolutely

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01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:40,560
this is what we can talk about and yeah

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01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:43,360
and you can come back and

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01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:45,280
all week it would be the highlight you

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01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:47,360
know or whatever

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01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:49,920
and just talk about you know how it's

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01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:51,360
going over there and

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01:22:55,910 --> 01:22:53,679
what's needed and what we'll do yeah

2030
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:55,920
what people can do to help

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01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:58,320
oh that'll be fantastic thank you yeah

2032
01:23:01,590 --> 01:22:59,920
try to get akam on here as well like

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01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:01,600
akam is so shy

2034
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,600
i mean the guy is brilliant like he

2035
01:23:08,709 --> 01:23:05,679
should appear on like videos and stuff

2036
01:23:11,940 --> 01:23:08,719
yeah okay well tell him to come on

2037
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,950
oh well you go play

2038
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:13,440
[Laughter]

2039
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:14,800
thank you very much i'm gonna play with

2040
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:16,159
my son he's right here i'm gonna play

2041
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:17,199
the drums with him

2042
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:20,000
oh fun awesome all right take care my

2043
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:21,600
friends take care brother awesome to see

2044
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:22,239
you we'll see you

2045
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:29,110
all right that was fun sorry about the

2046
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:30,239
audio stuff

2047
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:32,480
i still can't hear myself so i have no

2048
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:34,239
idea how it sounds

2049
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:36,639
i'll probably go back and listen and be

2050
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:39,600
very frustrated

2051
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:40,800
because i thought it was a great

2052
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:44,080
conversation um

2053
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:46,159
but yeah i'll figure that out make sure

2054
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:48,159
i get that fixed

2055
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:51,440
it seems to happen whenever i

2056
01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:53,040
like make music on my computer and

2057
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:54,800
record music and then go back and do

2058
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:56,159
this something's wacky

2059
01:24:02,709 --> 01:23:59,679
so i gotta figure that out

2060
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:02,719
but um stay tuned next week we have

2061
01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:05,520
an amazing week next week is going to be

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01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:06,400
the biggest week

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01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:09,440
of this show's

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01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:12,560
super long three-month history

2065
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:15,280
monday scott brown he's here with us

2066
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:17,040
today

2067
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:18,480
very much looking forward to having him

2068
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:20,159
we're going to talk about

2069
01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:24,400
um a case from brazil where

2070
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:26,400
kind of shows the not so nice side

2071
01:24:31,510 --> 01:24:28,080
possibly of this

2072
01:24:35,110 --> 01:24:31,520
uh ufo stuff on tuesday

2073
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:35,120
we have two people so at the normal hour

2074
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:39,360
we're gonna have mark uh fiorentini tino

2075
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:40,480
that's the last name starting to

2076
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:43,040
pronounce and then um

2077
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:45,600
later that at night at uh 8 central

2078
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:46,560
we're gonna have steve

2079
01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:50,880
bassett so that is awesome

2080
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:53,360
um wednesday it looks like we're going

2081
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:55,840
to have a

2082
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:58,960
possibly a mufon investigator which

2083
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,080
would be cool

2084
01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:02,880
i'm very curious to know what that life

2085
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:04,320
is like

2086
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:07,679
thursday we have

2087
01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:10,960
nick pope on thursday that's pretty cool

2088
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,719
nick pope um i love him my dad loves him

2089
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:16,800
and we'll give him a talking too see

2090
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:17,920
what's up

2091
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:21,760
and on friday we have um

2092
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:25,360
david marlar dave marlar so

2093
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:29,520
that is a triangle um ufo day

2094
01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:32,320
so thanks for tuning in we got a great

2095
01:25:36,629 --> 01:25:33,679
week next week

2096
01:25:38,229 --> 01:25:36,639
thank you for being here greg thanks for

2097
01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:38,239
all your support and your help

2098
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:41,520
all you guys kick butt um don't be a

2099
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:43,120
stranger get in touch with me share this

2100
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:43,840
stuff

2101
01:25:47,669 --> 01:25:46,000
let's get this out here so you know

2102
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:47,679
people like lou elizondo

2103
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:51,280
will come on the show um but until then

2104
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:54,000
we're gonna have a lot of fun all right

2105
01:26:04,470 --> 01:25:55,920
have a great weekend

2106
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i'm witness citizen